The Kingdom Investor

61 - Balancing Business Success and Spiritual Growth | Alan Barnhart

March 31, 2023 Daniel White Episode 61
The Kingdom Investor
61 - Balancing Business Success and Spiritual Growth | Alan Barnhart
Show Notes Transcript

Imagine giving away half of your business profits to charity. Not content with that, you give up ownership of your company by transferring 99% of the shares into a charitable trust. That’s what Alan Barnhart did. “I want to be good in business, and I’m competitive but I wanted to make sure that if we were successful in business, it wouldn't hurt us spiritually.” So, he balanced business success and spiritual growth by giving it all to God, the true owner of the company.

Alan Barnhart joins us today to talk about his pursuit of business with a purpose and of being called by God to use his engineering and business skills to serve the kingdom. Having led Barnhart Crane & Rigging to definitive success for the past decades, Alan never lost sight of the lessons about money he learned from the Bible early on. 


Key Points From This Episode: 

  • What did Alan learn about money from the Bible?
  • As the business flourished, how did Alan and his brother/business partner put safeguards in their life so that they will not fall into the trappings of wealth and affluence?
  • What are the critical aspects of business that helped Alan grow the business steadily through the years?
  • Alan’s advice to business owners on how to incorporate and structure the giving component of their business.
  • What has been the impact of 37 years of giving for Alan, for the company, and for the beneficiaries?
  • Alan reflects on the question: Is it harder to give away money than to make money? 

Tweetables:

“I wanted to make sure that if we were successful in business, it wouldn't hurt us spiritually.”

“If God chooses to prosper the business, we're going to see that as an opportunity to further the kingdom as opposed to further our lifestyle.”

“People say it’s a really bad strategy to jettison 50% of our profits but we give away 50% of our profits; we take the other 50% and use it to grow the business, and God has given us plenty.”

“It's essential to include God in the equation while investing in the business.”


Links Mentioned in Today’s Episode:

Barnhart Crane & Rigging

Kingdom Companies Group

The Grove

The Kingdom Investor Podcast on LinkedIn


About Alan Barnhart

Alan Barnhart is the CEO of Barnhart Crane & Rigging. He grew up working in the steel-erecting business his father founded in Memphis, Tennessee in 1969. During high school and college, Alan and his brother, Eric, worked summers as ironworkers and crane operators learning the business from the ground up. In college, Alan studied civil engineering, coursework that would serve him well after joining the business full-time in the early 1980s. Barnhart Crane & Rigging has grown to be one of the largest Heavy Lift and Heavy Transport organizations in the United States with more than 40 locations across the country and a nationwide reputation for solving problems. 

Alan, Eric, and their families decided to give 100% of their highly successful business to charity to keep wealth from taking over their lives. About 50 percent of all company earnings are donated immediately to charity. The remaining 50 percent is used to grow the business. And in 2007, they gave the entire company to National Christian Foundation. Though they still run their daily operations, the brothers will never reap its accrued value; they kept none of it.

Alan and his wife, Katherine, have six children and reside in Tennessee.

EPISODE 61


[INTRODUCTION]


ANNOUNCER: Imagine taking your generosity to the next level, impacting more lives, and leaving a godly legacy for generations to come. Get ideas and strategies to do just that when you listen to these personal stories from high-level Kingdom champions.

The Kingdom Investor Podcast showcases business leaders who have moved from success to significance, sharing how they use worldly wealth for kingdom impact. Discover how they grew in generosity, impacted more lives, and built godly legacies. You'll find motivation, inspiration, and practical steps to grow as a Kingdom Investor.


Daniel White (DW):  Hello, and welcome to The Kingdom Investor Podcast. This is your host, Daniel White. Thanks for joining us as we hear from Alan Barnhart. Alan is the president and CEO of Barnhart Crane & Rigging. Alan has grown the company over 37 years from a mom-and-pop operation to now over $500 million in revenue and 1700 employees. They have 50 offices across the US and they use their profits to fund missions globally. In this episode, Alan shares how he grew the business with a greater purpose, keys to success and advice for generosity. If you have enjoyed the show, help us reach more listeners by sharing with your friends and following us on LinkedIn at The Kingdom Investor Podcast. And now without further ado, let's get right into the show. 


[INTERVIEW]


DW: Alan Barnhart, welcome to The Kingdom Investor Podcast. How are you doing today?

 

Alan Barnhart (AB):  Doing great, glad to be here.

 

DW:  So glad you could come on and really have looked forward to this for a long time. You are one of the inspirations for the podcast. And just, you know, hearing you speak in Lexington five years ago just changed the trajectory of my business and life and how I thought about business and generosity. So really excited to share your story with this audience and they're in for a real treat.

 

AB:  Daniel, it's a privilege and a great, it's very encouraging to hear your words.


DW:  So would you start out just by sharing a little bit about who you are? Where you're coming to us from?

 

AB:  Great, yeah. I live in Memphis, Tennessee, just north of Memphis out in the country. And I have an amazing wife, Katherine, and six kids, ages 35 down to 22, seven grandkids. So that's been a big part of our life. I tell people, I have a very boring resume. I've worked for the same company really since I was about 10 years old. And I've been the CEO of the company since 1986. So, the company is a crane and rigging business. We pick up and move heavy stuff around the country. We have about 50 branches around the country doing that. And that's what I've been about for the last, you know, really 40 years full-time in my life, working in the crane and rigging business.

 

DW:  Is there anything that you're particularly interested in or excited about that you're working on right now that you could share?

 

AB:  Well, we are adding other companies, our company is owned by a charitable trust. And other companies have seen the benefit of that, and, are doing a similar thing. We transferred the shares of our company, 99% of them into a charitable trust back in 2008. And there's now six companies that are part of what we call the Kingdom Companies Group, that all are owned in a similar fashion, controlled by a board of trustees. All businesses that are apt to make a profit and we pool our money, or we pull our chunk of our profits in and send them out to further the kingdom. So that we call them the Kingdom Companies Group. And so that's one of the things I've been excited about, developing over the last few years.

 

DW:  That's awesome. I'm excited to hear more about that as you unpack your story. But before we do, do you mind praying for our audience, and for business owners out there that they would really be able to see that God owns it all and that we can use it for His Kingdom instead of building our own kingdoms?

 

AB:  Sure, will. Father, thank you. Thank you for being our Savior and our Lord. Thank you for loving us. Thank you for your words in Scripture and for the ways that you guide us and warn us and encourage us Thank you for the opportunities that you've put in front of us. We pray that that we will be stewards of what you've given us, not owners, we, we recognize that you own it all, and that we are stewards help us to do that well guide us in that process. Father, I pray that this, this time will be an encouragement and a benefit that people who are trying to be stewards, thank you for this time we pray in Jesus name, amen. Amen.

 

DW:  All right, Alan, would you share your story, maybe start with, where you grew up, and how you came to Christ and then share about the company and how that grew.

 

AB:  Sure, yeah, I grew up in Memphis, Tennessee. My family weren't believers but we did go to church, some Methodist church. But came to Christ in a ministry called Young Life when I was in high school, heard the gospel, embraced it. After my sophomore year in high school, went back and worked at a Young Life camp after my junior year in high school. And that's really when I'd say I embraced my faith more completely. Went off to college at the University of Tennessee and grew a tremendous amount in my faith during those four years, learning with some other guys how to pray, how to worship, how to serve. A lot of life-transforming times there. I got out of college. Some of my friends were saying, you know, you ought to go to seminary or go into full-time ministry. I felt God was calling me.

 

AB:  So, I prayed. I basically said, God, what do you want me to do? I'll do whatever you want me to do. And I just didn't feel a call to vocational ministry. But I did come to the conclusion that all of us who are followers of Jesus are in full-time ministry. All of us should be using our skills and gifts full-time to serve Him. But he had gifted me more in the area of engineering and business than he had in preaching or writing. So my full-time ministry was I should go to that direction. And so I came back and started working for the family business. And this was in 1983. And it was a very small mom-and-pop business, international corporate headquarters was two bedrooms of our home that I grew up in. And mom wrote every paycheck and dad was running the business. And so I just went to work in that industry. I've been working for that company every summer through high school and college. So I knew the industry. We had maybe eight employees or seven or eight employees at that time. And just started doing that. 


AB:  I decided to read through the Bible because I've learned to study the Bible. And I decided to read through the Bible to see what it had to say about money because I was going into business. And it said a lot. There were thousands of verses that talked about it, and I came away with two primary takeaways. The first one being stewardship. That God, I'm not on my own, I've been bought with a price. God owns everything. Everything I have has come from God, belongs to God. I need to hold it all with an open hand. And I need to figure out what God wants me to do with his stuff. And then the second thing I came away with was a fear of business success, a fear of wealth. So many warnings, Jesus warned ten times more about money than anything else. So many warnings, and parables that just talked about the tragic effects of wealth. The verses in First Timothy, the famous verses that the love of money is the root of all kinds of evil but it also says people who want to get rich fall into temptation and a trap and plunge themselves into ruin and destruction. I didn't want that to be my story. 


AB:  So I'm a competitive guy. If I'm gonna be in the business part of the scoreboard is making money. But I was afraid that that would entrap me and that there were so many warnings about it. It was a big deal 2,000 years ago. It's even probably a bigger deal today and I wanted to make sure that if we were successful in business, it wouldn't hurt us spiritually. And so, those were shaping thoughts before when we went into business. I was working for my parents in 1986. Then my parents decided to leave the company and get on a sailboat and sail around the world. And they just bought a boat and off they went just the two of them and they were gone for most of the next seven years sailing. 


AB:  So, my brother and I started a business that was basically a continuation of what they did. And because of those verses, though, because of those concepts that God had given me, we decided to put some safeguards in our life. And the first one was about stewardship, basically saying this is God's company. Technically, my brother and I each own half of it. In our mind, it was God's business. And secondly, we put a cap on our lifestyle to avoid some of the negative elements of wealth and the striving for more. And so we said, we're going to live a relatively simple lifestyle. And if God chooses to prosper the business, we're going to see that as an opportunity to further the kingdom as opposed to further our lifestyle. 


AB:   So those were the two fundamental commitments that my brother and I and our wives made before we started the business. And man, we are so thankful that we did because I mean, we weren't sure we'd survive the first year, you know. I was a 25-year-old kid, the mom-and-pop business mom and pop left. In the first year, I was proud to work 100 hours a week running cranes and doing the books and it was just a crazy time of trying to make this thing go. We had no idea what God was going to do with it. And so thankful that we had those, we put those things in place at the time, because my brother and I have been partners now for 37 years. And we've never argued about money. It's just kind of miraculous. You know, I see so many families get ripped apart by money and not normally because there's a lack of it, but because there's too much, and there's squabbles about it, and we just have not had that experience. And we've continued to live the same lifestyle as we watched God do amazing things through our company. And it's been great to be a part of that. But I think those initial commitments allowed us to avoid some of the pitfalls that could have come with affluence, and so we're very thankful. 


DW:  Yeah, that's really neat. So how has God grown the business over the years?

 

AB:  Well, I think the vehicle that is used primarily is bringing people that were smarter than me, better than me, partnering, working with me into our company. And we've gotten a lot of those that God has brought there. But the first from 1986 to 2008, the company grew at 25% a year. But it went from a little over a million dollars to $250 million during that period. And it was at that point that we ended up transferring the stock into a charity because the company became worth a lot of money, you know, hundreds of millions of dollars. So, God has just taken this little 10 people in Memphis, Tennessee and grown it to, you know, it's now over $500 million of revenue and 1700 people. So it's doubled since we gave it away. But we were watching God do amazing things over and over again. Initially, there were some serious miracles of bringing capital into our business. 


AB: My brother and I, we've started, we each put in $20,000 and we rented equipment that my parents had from them. And there's been no additional money going in. The company has generated whatever money was needed to grow. And it's a very capital-intensive business. So it's been, we just watched God continually do miracle after miracle. A lot of those had to do with people coming into our business and doing great work. And so, each year, we give away 50% of our profits. And for a capital-intensive business, people would say that's a really bad strategy to jettison 50% of your profits. But we take the other 50%, we use it to grow the business, and God has given us plenty. We have almost no debt. We're very capital intensive and still, for expansion, for us, capital has not been the constraint, it's been people. So we're continually looking for additional people to join us to continue to grow. But that's been sort of, we've seen God just mainly through bringing people, and those people using their tools and skills to serve customers, come up with great value to our customers, harvests that value in the form of profit, and then use the profit either to grow the business or to fund the kingdom. 

 

DW:  Is that 50-50 profit split, something that you've done from the very beginning or is that something that happened more recently?

 

AB:  No, that's from the beginning. And it had to do with the tax law at the time that you could deduct 50% of your income from your taxes. And when you look at the tax rate and what those taxes cost you, my Uncle Sam is basically subsidizing your giving by 40% or more. And so that's a hard thing to pass up. And it's gonna be hard to generate that kind of returns. So if we look at it as all God's money and how can we deploy it in the best way, in our mind it was to get it out invested in people as soon as possible and take advantage of the tax break that came with it. So, that's where the number came from. At that point, I think it's 60%. Now it's the deductible amount but back then it was 50. And so that's, that's why we hit on that number.


DW:  Gotcha. That makes sense. And then one common question that I come across a lot is business owners trying to figure out how much to give now and how much to give later. Because, you know, when we're in business, a lot of it is investment. And so do you have anything to say to that, maybe in your experience in sowing into God's kingdom, 50% of the profits and kind of investing those 50% back into the business? And maybe the return on investment, quote, unquote, of each one of those and kind of how those have compared? And if you would go back, would you have done, you know, more into the kingdom or into the business? What are your thoughts?

 

AB:  That's a good question. Yeah, don't really know. I mean, I think the 50% and now you can say 60% is pretty, pretty good argument financially. Now, every business has a different cycle. I mean, we would have had debt all through our history. Of course, humanly speaking, if everything went the same way, and we had not given away money, we could have had no debt a long time ago. But I think that's leaving God out of the equation. And I don't think that you can put God in the equation in a way that you can put them in your Excel spreadsheet and say, if I do this, God will do that. I don't think you can do that. But I also don't think you should leave him out. I think, you've got to do more than you think and that's what we've found. And so, I think if we had, we had decided we were going to wait until we're debt-free to start giving, we may have never gotten debt-free and never started giving. I don't know. 


AB: But I don't think I would have done it differently. I certainly wouldn't have given less. There was one year where they allowed 100% deductibility of your, it was the Katrina year, and we had a really good year that year. And I think we are able to give about 70% that year. We gave up to what our bank covenants would allow us to give. And each time, we look at the final, we run those numbers, and we say, man, it is difficult to think that money staying in the business is going to generate more than what we're having to pay in taxes. So as long as we look at it as all of it is God's and now what bucket do we put it in, I think that allows the correct calculation. 

 

DW:  Yeah. Yeah. And then, because you've been giving for these 37 years, and gotten to see some of those long-term investments on the mission field play out, can you share maybe some examples of what it's looked like to give for that long and see that much impact happening?

 

AB:  Yeah, I mean, it's extremely encouraging to meet other brothers and sisters, who are frankly, more godly than I am, more committed than I am, doing hard things in hard places. And God allows us to be part of what they're doing. I focus on India, and I've met some amazing people there. We're in a location where we can generate resources in a much different way than they can there. And if we can find ways to invest some of that to further what they're doing, it can be really powerful. So, the allowing of linking of the Body of Christ to cause God to be proclaimed and known, that is really exciting. So, I travel to India every year and I missed a couple of years with COVID. Each time, I'm so encouraged that God's allowed us and who are we, you know, and God has allowed us to generate money and use it with some choice people and it's been our whole history.


AB:  We've had people at our dinner table so many times when our kids were growing up, telling about what God was doing all over the world. And it was a great blessing for my kids to see it. Because they were seeing that we had a lifestyle that was a little different than some of their friends. And to understand the why to that, they got to see it. And that has been a great benefit to my kids. We took them all over the world to meet these people, see these organizations, and it was life-changing for them. And it's been a real life changer for me, for my family, for my co-workers. We have many co-workers that have traveled internationally as part of this due diligence process. And it's been life-changing.

 

DW: Do you have any, oh I'm sure you have a lot but maybe share one or two stories of some of the impact that you've seen through the partnerships that you have in India?

 

AB:  Yeah, I mean, one group is focusing on church planting. And when we went and visited them in 1997, they were, they had taken a state of India, now I'm not going to name the state, because there's some security issues there now, but they had mapped it. And they had said, we want to get a church in every zip code. And right now we have a church and maybe 20% of the zip codes. So we're going to intentionally find people, train them, deploy them to do that. And they did it and that state now has a church in every zip code. A monumental task, I mean, a couple of thousand of years have gone by with, with those, those places, having people who have never heard the name, Jesus. And now there's still plenty of work to do there. But they had a strategic plan to do it. And they pulled it off over many years. And, now there's fruit that's multiplying in that state. So, there's been some struggle, I mean, people died along the way, people were imprisoned and beaten along the way. But, they were able to pull that off. So that was a very encouraging one to watch.

 

DW: About how many zip codes are in that state? 

 

AB:  I don't know. It's hundreds. I don't remember. It's a lot. It's a lot of zip codes, maybe 100. 

 

DW: Gotcha. Cool. Do you have another maybe more personal story about impact or somebody that's been impacted through that's a unique story that maybe we don't get to hear a lot of?

 

AB:  I'm trying to come up with one, but I want to make a comment about it. And that is, we are intentionally not chasing what I'd call the warm and fuzzies. It's not about us. And I do think a mistake that people make in giving is to say what am I passionate about, what makes me feel good. And I think that is a recipe for us doing things that are counterproductive in giving or sometimes counterproductive. Sometimes, it's just a waste. The ultimate example of going down to Mexico and handing out candy to the kids and everybody's loving you, and you know, jumping around. And what you're doing is counterproductive. But it makes you feel really good. And we want to be the opposite of that, in terms of how we think about things, and we're not, you know, a lot of the people that we support there, we don't, they don't speak English. We don't, we've never met them, we've learned about them through research by others. And we still rejoice in what they're doing. 


AB:  So I'm not really, we're not really chasing something that makes us feel good. And what we're trying to chase is the maximum effectiveness of the dollars invested. It's kind of like in business, I go, I go to these big trade shows, and they have all these huge cranes. They're all shiny and brand new and nice. And I've made it my point to never buy a crane at a trade show because you want to and you are announcing that if you do and there are others kind of cool stuff, but I always force myself to come back and run the numbers and make sure that it's a wise decision before I proceed. So I don't let myself do those things emotionally.


AB:  And giving is the same. I can't make any decisions about the money that's going out of the company and into the ministry. We do that as a group. I have a group of people within India, our India team that meets, and we all together have to agree then we take it to the board and the board has to approve it. So we have a process to avoid the emotional elements of giving. So, that's why I was struggling. I mean, I've been to 60 countries and I've had lots of experiences that have shaped my life personally. But I want to quickly say that's not what we're, its not about looking for the excitement or the warm and fuzzies. Does that make sense? 

 

DW:  Yeah, no, that makes sense. Yeah. So that kind of leads to another question, I guess. Let me have you share the story first if you don't mind.

 

AB:  Yeah, well, so I guess another story. I'll tell you what, I'll share one about generosity, which is an interesting story. This is what came from China. There was an organization there that had a financial need. And we said, we will, we would like to meet half of that need, as a matching gift, if you will, if you will find a donor within China to match the other half of it. And the ministry moaned and groaned about it. There's no way, we can't, you know, that's going to be too difficult. We said, why don't you try it. There's a lot of people, a lot of Christians making lots of money in China right now. But I went there, a year later, and I met the person who had matched that grant. It was $40,000. And the person who matched it was a 30-year-old gal who had been a believer for a year, worked for IBM, making really good money, and heard about this need. And she had enough surplus, she put in $40,000. And we got to spend the day with her and just enjoying each other and sharing. It was just such a joy for her to do that. And we're so thankful that we had pushed them to involve someone else. And so got to get to meet her and be with her for the day. And it was just a great story. So, that was one that was really fun.

 

DW:  Yeah, that is good. That's good. And then can you share about the Grove Group and how that came about? And then kind of a little bit of you're giving strategy. 

 

AB:  Yeah. The first year we didn't, we were amazed when we had a profit left at the end of the first year. I think we had $50,000 we were able to send out. And then we start looking at each other and said, how do we do it? Who do we send it to? And we decided, we got a group of us together, we decided to do it as a group to avoid some of the emotional, prideful elements of giving. And so we sat down together, and we prayed and sent the money out to eight or ten organizations. And in the next year, there was more. And so we, we thought we need to figure this out. So, we connected with some other people who had given money away. We had never met them before but they connected us to a group called the Maclellan Foundation out of Chattanooga. They had been doing it for a long time, and they were very good at it. And I'm a 26-year-old kid who showed up there and they were willing to spend time with us, give us all of their information, their manuals, and the whole thought of strategy was a new thing for us. 


AB:  And so we've benefited greatly from others who have had already done it. And we continue to. And so we are part of several giving collaborations where we're giving with other foundations, and we're learning from them. And so the Grove Group started with six people. They were all employees or spouses, and has evolved over time to now it's about 60 people who do things internationally, and probably another 100 or so that do things in their local branches. But those 60 are divided into six teams. And those teams are focused on specific areas of the world. We have an India team, a Southeast Asia team, a West African team, and a Middle East, and North Africa team. They meet every month for the whole year. And then they come once a year to the board with a portfolio of ministries that they are recommending as our strategy for that area. 


AB:  And so, they would take trips during that time, meeting people, doing due diligence. We have a proposal process form that has to be filled out, evaluating the ministry, and then a form filled out describing the project and the outcomes expected. It's a lot like doing due diligence on an acquisition. We've done a lot of acquisitions and what you're looking for, they have good leadership, they have a coherent strategy and they have a reasonably good track record. And if you get those three things in place, then it's okay to invest some money. We tend to invest small and then invest more over time. We definitely use the term investment as opposed to giving. We don't want them to say thank you. We're joining their team and we want them to give us a return on our investment which is not a financial return but it's, they have given us in their proposal, telling us what they're going to do, what are the outcomes that they're going to achieve over this time. And then we measure them against that. 


AB:  And sometimes they don't get it done. And that's, you know, it's a lot more high-risk things, and we expect there's gonna be failures. And as long as they're honest about that, and we continue to, typically will continue to invest. But we see ourselves as investors, not givers. And we want to ask hard questions. And if a ministry is looking for a donor, but not a partner, then they're not one for us. And another thing I'd say is, all of us ignore 99.99% of the things out there. I mean, no one is giving money to every need in the world. We're all picking and choosing, we just want to pick and choose wisely, intentionally. That's why we focused on those six areas of the world. If proposals come from other areas of the world, the answer is no. We only do things, we don't do missionary, we don't support missionaries, we don't support building programs. Again, none of them, none of the things we say no to do we think are bad. They're just outside of our focus. And so we try to focus on specific things, learn about those, try to get better at those. Join with other people who are doing the same thing and learn from them. So these six teams are very active and trying to get good at, in our case in India, who to, and how can we learn more and continually trying to find other ministries. We're not waiting for proposals to come to us. We're going and looking for organizations that we can invest in. So, we see ourselves as investors, not as givers.

 

DW:  Right, yeah. So I've heard that it's harder to give away money than to make money. What do you think about that? 

 

AB:  Yeah, I think you need to be as strategic in your giving as you are in your making. And I think both are hard. And it may be more fun making money than it is giving it. The scoreboard is easier. In a lot of giving, the outcomes are harder to measure and it's external. And so you're, you always have doubts, and you're always having to do that due diligence. Do your due diligence and checking. Yeah, I think it's more naturally easy to make more money than to give it. I think both should be done. Well, I think it's fine for a person to be a spirit-led giver. God tells him to do it, and they just plain give it. Particularly if that's the way they run their business, then I think to do your giving that way, it would be perfectly fine. We don't run our business that way. Obviously, we want to be listening to God and seeing what the Bible says I'm trying to follow that. But the way we run our business is to have strategy and measurements. And we want to do some more things for the ministry, for our ministry investing.

 

DW: Does the Grove group primarily give company profits? Or is it a combination of or is it in connection with the Kingdom Companies?

 

AB:  Yes, all the groups in the Kingdom Companies put a chunk of their profit into this pool. And members of all of the Kingdom Companies Group are part of the Grove process or on one of those teams. So, they're sort of collective in that respect, and money from all six of the companies flow into the giving pool. Which is, to me, one of the great benefits of the Kingdom Companies Group, you have a strategy that you can connect into for giving because giving is hard. And people that do it over a long period of time maybe get disillusioned with it. Because their expectations, when you watch the video, you think everything's wonderful. And we're all a bunch of human beings. Just like in work, everything doesn't go well. It doesn't. So, people can get disillusioned or not have a focus and be just really responsive, trying to respond to different things coming their way. And it's hard and so having a group to do it with can be a huge benefit.


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DW:  This concludes part one of two.

 

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